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  1. Cheik & Bake
    January 14, 2012

    Nice, balanced piece. I was half expecting an “Obertan is fantastic, lay off him” article to combat the idiot boo boys that get on his back at St James’ Park. Whilst in no way do I agree with the actions of his most vocal critics, I do feel that he has been poor a lot of the time and his consistently inconsistent form merits the sort of discussion that you have engaged in. For too many he is either crap or, on the flip side, I feel plenty have been queuing up to blindly defend his performances, regardless of how poor. It’s nice to see someone discuss the middle ground for once.

    • Smith
      January 14, 2012

      Many thanks. I understand your sentiment about some blindly defending him, and whist I’ll always try to defend him in a long term view he at times does not do himself any favours. I was always under the impression he had not played much at any of his previous clubs but even I was surprised to see how few starts he’s had and in his career and how fragmented his career has been – with that in mind it’s understandable at how raw he can look. But, adversely, he has to show that he is willing to take the opportunity that’s been afforded to him and not play the victim. I really do hope he makes it – but only time will tell.

  2. Jeff Leopard
    January 14, 2012

    I will give my opinion this time next year. He isn’t untouchable by any means but no-one deserves jeers and booing.

  3. BeeGuy
    January 14, 2012

    I think to understand Obertan you need to see what happens when he gets the ball. Usually he outruns the NUFC attack. He gets to the corner, ready to deliver a cross and there is no one there to ping the ball at. From that, I think he needs to develop ways to check his speed until the burst is needed. Jonas has that skill, but like all wingers, the end of the run usually looks disappointing. Obertan and Jonas both make the same moves to the middle that so confound the crowd. They seem to do this when the defense is already laying for them in the corner.

    If Obertan is indeed playing through the pain of a toe injury, then I’ll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt. At the end of the day I see him healthy and acting like wingers everywhere.

  4. Ryan
    January 14, 2012

    He reminds me a bit of how Aaron Lennon used to be. One of the quickest around, but with no end ball. But instead of dropping him, Spurs persisted, and look at him now- he’s a guaranteed starter, and has naturally improved. This should serve as encouragement to the Obertan situation. I think, given that- in true Newcastle style- he was handed a 5-year contract, he needs to be given a chance. At least a full season. you never know, he might turn good with the consistency of playing time that he’s never really had.

  5. Petras LTU
    January 15, 2012

    Good young talented player, trying to settle in and still learning his trade. Yes he made mistakes, is dispossessed too often,but hard work in training will fix it.

  6. jossaldinho
    January 15, 2012

    i just dont understand it ? he has ability, we all can see that. he doesnt seem to me to have the confidence to go past a player although he has the tools to do it. football as we all know is a mental issue as well as a physical, how many players have we seen over the years who arent totally gifted but have drive which makes them a player ? if firmly believe if he could unlock the mind key he would be fantastic.

  7. Lualua17
    January 15, 2012

    Nice article. Can’t say I’m Obertan’s biggest fan but would never boo the guy. I wonder if he would be better suited to playing off the front man in Ben Arfa’s number 10 role. I think that was the position he played against Arsenal if I remember right and he played well. I think Ben Arfa should play the RW role he is definitely a winger I have said that for ages. Hopefully Obertan does come good but he frustrates me when he misplaces passes and wastes crossing opportunities. However the thing that frustrates me the most is the amount of times he backs out of 50/50 challenges. Hopefully these areas can be worked on and his potential is reached.

  8. Davo
    January 15, 2012

    Very balanced article, he is a very frustrating player to watch and appears to struggle with decision making and looks short on confidence when he gets the ball hence getting dispossessed quite frequently.
    I’d like to see him play as a striker alongside say best whilst demba away to take advantage of his pace it worked for a certain Mr Henry when he was switched from the wing (not that he’s in his class) but a few goals could work wonders for him.

  9. bish bash bosh
    January 15, 2012

    even though this is an article trying to point out 2 sides, really though if he played like he plays like that for any team in the league and not us you would all say what a shit player he is, and im not talking about man u or any top 4 team , pick any team in the prem,

    he is young , but at 22, come on he is not a kid just breaking through, at 22 he should be able to do a few basic things in football,
    first thing im my opinion any footballer should do is try his hardest out on the field, there are lots of footballers out there our own jonas fits the bill here, not alot of end product but chases everything and leaves all his energy out on the pitch, obertan dont even do that, instead obertan seems to go hiding during games

    passing, he carnt pass very good,
    first touch , is very poor
    crossing, omg, he does 1 of 3 things here, cuts inside, and holds onto the ball way to long, or he tries to cross, but hits row z, or more often he pulls it back for simpson, to cross , between simpson obertan jonas and raylor, obertan has the least amaount of crosses, and whats worse is he has the least amout of cross completions :(
    in the last say 5 to 10 games, iv noticed that he is now starting to play anywhere but on the right wing, so we have no outlet there, only when simpson makes up ground,,

    again yes he is 22, but this man , not boy, has been at man u , and bordeaux, before us, 2 good clubs, and even if he didnt make the first team much in those teams, he still was around some of the best players and trainers in the world to learn from, im more than sure at 3 years at man u , id be twice the player i am right now,

    sorry but a player hits his peak at around 26 or 27, to me his peak will be how fast he can do the 100 mtrs, after all, what everyone has tried to do is turn a sprinter into a footballer, but he dont have a football brain, you carnt really teach that in my opinion, you have it or you dont,

  10. Tom
    January 15, 2012

    Gabriel Obertan : The guy is nothing but a nuisance. Hardly ever gets a telling cross in, stubbornly refuses to use his pace to go past fullbacks. Provides nothing but comic relief with his exaggerated stepovers all in all jsut a pest

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